… Looking for a bit of advice to see if this is feasible, we are hoping to maximise space in a kitchen. The main this is it's a huge mess - the actual flue inside is actually only held in with lots of rubble - so it all comes tubbling down. Chimney breast removal involves cutting away those bricks that are bonded into the Party Wall. How do you know that there is definitely a builder’s opening (fireplace) somewhere? I need to do this in a 30s house to put a range cooker in. Freestanding furniture. The weight of the small area you are removing will be redistributed and carried easily. Usually you build out the chimney breast by constructing a timber frame over it, plasterboard it, then skim it over. If you want to make your chicken less slippery and easier to cut, place it in the freezer for 15 minutes. We've also removed upstairs too...I think it's less troublesome if you only want to do downs stairs (but don't quote me on that!) I'll ask him if you like when he's home. In the back half we have a closed off chimney breast which we initially thought about knocking down but have now decided against it to avoid losing some of the character of the room. It is a shared chimney. Rangemaster Kitchener 90 Cooker + IKEA BAR STOOLS. The safest method, as recommended by HETAS, is to use a flexible flue liner. If you have a chimney (a proper chimney stack) but do not have a recess suitable for even the smallest of solid fuel stoves then you will very likely be looking at an open fire, gas fire, electric fire, little hole in the wall or a boarded/bricked up recess. CONSTANCE ROUND MIRROR - LAURA ASHLEY - IMAGE: FIFI MCGEE. Well, I know removing a chimney breast is expensive because, often the joists for the floor above are built into it and, of course, you have the rest of the chimeny breast to support but keeping the side walls in and removing the front to head height shouldn't compromise the structure too much should it...? Right, so who should I get in to tell me what's what? 15 or 30 or 45 degree elbows all can be chosen from depending on how much offset is required. Wise old lady. It instantly makes the room feel cosy, and works in all areas of the house, from the bedroom, dining room to the living room. Thanks jean that would be good. I have to cut out a new hole, for the tee of a new ss liner, as the old opening is not in the room, where the stove will be located. –ever since. Builder says he can't make a decision- something about it needing to be signed off... OK - firstly - your builder isn't very helpful - he could do this all for you! to demand that MIL pay for my private medical treatment? I know we've got a big mental lintel in - but then we also bashed out a wall too. Damp patches and brown water stains on upstairs ceilings, chimney breasts and internal walls are commonly the result of leaks around the edges of chimney stacks where they meet the roof. It's about waist high with a woodburning stove in the space as it is. And that's true to an extent. We painted the alcoves in our old flat Farrow and Ball’s Eating Room Red and kept the rest of the room neutral with oak floors. Not hours later, the whole place fell down. Moral of the story - go with your instincts - it's all you've got when it comes to it. Commonly, the sketch to the left presents what you need we installing a wood burner into an existing chimney. You don’t. I personally adore this look – when homeowners decide to wallpaper their chimney breast with an incredible pattern instead of paint. I know he's not very helpful- I think a lot gets lost in translation! To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. It would need a lintel obviously (there is one now).... We have just done this as part of a bigger project (knocking wall down between kitchen and dining room) so can't tell you how much that part cost.We had to remove the existing lintel as it was too low. I don't need to remove the whole chimney breast, just create a square hole to a height that i can put a cooker in. I know it's the outside rather than the inside that you want to do but, I'm sure it'd give a similar effect. Now mark out the opening to the size you want and where the lintel is to be situated[which will be just above the opening],cut out ONLY the area where the lintel is going to sit. Do not vent air up immediately in front of the fire opening. If you're looking for chimney breast ideas and alcove ideas, you've come to the right blog! In @fifimcgeee's home, #SkimmingStone in Estate Emulsion on the walls and #WimborneWhite in Estate Eggshell on the woodwork provide the perfect canvas for autumnal accessorising . Here we've been able to maximise worktop space elsewhere in the room, and make a real feature of the chimney breast. ooh I have the same question but dont want to put a range in but maybe make a feature perhaps a shelf. Read about us. We bought a Rangemaster Kitchener 90 cooker which is gas on top and electric on the bottom, with two electric ovens it’s an incredible machine. If the chimney breast you want to decorate is situated in the kitchen like one of ours, a fantastic use of space is to open up a portion of the wall and fit a freestanding or counter-top stove within it. The TV bracket can be mounted on the original wall of the fireplace. The brickwork on a chimney breast of a 1900s house will be solid brick (not veneer). Well, I know removing a chimney breast is expensive because, often the joists for the floor above are built into it and, ... We didn't need to do anything else though - managed to get an extractor to fit into space and had to put a liner in chimney for the extraction. noooody? A lintel that will end up 50+cm above the top of the stove will give adequate clearance should it be necessary (as it often is) to have two elbows above the stove without the lintel being in the way. The old lady in the top flat noticed that her doors and cupboard doors would not close properly one day. If the joists are trimmed around the breast just start at the top and cut it back both sides as far as you need and take it right down. Second moral of the story - don't mess around with chimney breasts unless you definately know what you are doing.Third moral of the story - if your cupboard doors or doors or windows won't close when they always did before - then think very hard about it. So I expect I need to work around it. If you're looking for a way to make your chimney breast a focal point using paint, there are lots of different techniques you can try. Another more affordable chimney breast idea if you don't have a fireplace, is to decorate the area with candles, lanterns, bunting and vases. Thinking two options if not ducting up the chimney but its tight in the ceiling and I really need 5'' min ducting, round or rectangular. Sorry - he doesn't know about the party wall agreement. ARIANA ARMCHAIR MADE.COM £399 - IMAGE: FIFI MCGEE, This post contains affiliate links, for more info look at the disclosure page. Anyway - as he's not going to do it - you call building control, be as precise as you can and tell them exactly what it is you want to do...they will then point you in the right direction and the next steps to take. Tighter budget? Then there was lots of plastering required on the chimney breast and in the hole. This will give you the height you need to cut your apron to (normally about 50mm –100mm up the existing chimney). If you're the same, how about trying your hand at wallpapering a 'less important' chimney breast like the bedroom, where it's not such a big deal if your edges aren't perfect. Homeowners look into having the breast wall removed to free up more living space. A UK Interior Blog documenting the house renovation and home decoration ideas of Fifi’s 1930s semi detached. It was only the height we changed. Some photos showing the layout. We did but then we took it out completely.The work will then be signed off (once done or in stages) by whoever building control send out. This is page 1 of 1 (This thread has 21 messages.). Chimney breast definition is - a part of a wall that extends out into a room to cover a chimney. Message deleted by MNHQ. I needed the hole to be about 1.8m in height and the existing lintel was much lower. Is yours shared chimney too? His advice is don't go wrecking in white. One for you, one for the other half. Still no wiser on shared chimney though - sorry. A new recess has been formed and the messy part is now out of the way. If your chimney breast is in a fairly modest size room, you might worry that adding shelves and reinstating period details like coving and fireplaces will make the space smaller. Seems a shame to not do something with it as it takes up space but someone said its about 3k to have it removed per level and there are 2 other floors above a bit. 3. We moved in to our 1930s fixer upper in 2016 and we've been renovating it – from grantastic to fantastic! Also consider painting your walls, shelves and skirting all one colour to give the illusion of one large space. My local council...... is this slightly OTT? It is a structrual alteration so you should seek out building control. The use of colour gave such good depth to the room, made it cosy to chill in, and at a time when we didn't want to invest in a lot of money in improving the flat, it was such an affordable solution. It's not a shared chimney though - although in the last 10 yrs he's probably thwacked one down in his time! To find this opening, remove the airbrick or ventilation vent, or take out two bricks about 30cm above the floor. The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice a discrete chimney extractor which is the Bosch Serie 4. I did my own chimney breast at home using 300x300mm slate, cut down into 50mm strips and then random lengths. I am using a cordless drill, set on the hammer setting. If you're laying a hearth for example, make sure it doesn't extend too far into the centre of the room, keep it narrow, so you have more walking space. Then, hold the breast with your non-dominant hand and slice the chicken across the tiny white fibers instead of parallel to them. Our Renovator’s Design Kit has helped many of our readers nail their layouts (it’s free, give it a try), but one of the best layout tips for tricky bedroom alcoves is to have a wardrobe each. They are often a mjor structural part of the house and help with its integrity. This is the rectangular recess in the chimney breast into which the fireback is fitted, which can be quite large in pre-Georgian houses but gradually reduced in size to no more than three square-feet in modest Victorian houses, and smaller still thereafter. Aside from the value it has added, it's cleaner and safer than an open fire, and brings a focal point to work around when decorating the living room. Chimney & Masonry Services Thanks jean, will get onto building control tomorrow. To cut chicken breast into strips, use a sharp chef’s knife that’s at least 8 to 10 inches long. Grilles must have a sufficient free open area. An interiors and renovation blog, helping you get your dream home. I have drilled no more than half an inch into an internal chimney breast in a bungalow and the drill will not go any further, therefore may I have hit something? If you're adamant you want chimney breast storage but you don't have the budget to get something built bespoke, freestanding furniture can look incredible and provide you with permanent or temporary storage space that's easy to change up or move elsewhere in the room when you fancy a change. We help renovators create their dream homes. With 4 rooms of this house having chimney breasts, I got lots of opportunity to try different ways of decorating them, so in this post I want to share 10 chimney breast ideas to help get you inspired for ways to decorate yours! Then there was lots of plastering required on the chimney breast and in the hole. It is shared only in that our neighbour's chimney breast is back to back with ours but they are separate iyswim.Ours was completely bricked up before we opened it up - the range cooker sat in front of it. What sold the property to us in the first place were the period features, the deep alcoves and wide chimney breasts. Turns out the builders had knocked out the chimney structure in the basement without a thought of supporting what was above it.Gives me goose bumps, even now. OH - be very wary of knocking around with chimney breasts and removing very much of them. She cant hear you. Has anyone opened up a chimney breast (in typical Victorian house) to create opening wide and high enough for a range cooker? We commissioned a local carpenter to design us the ultimate chimney breast storage plan. There were builders in the basement flat, doing something. Thank you - that sounds similar to the chimney breast I am looking at. Chimney breast walls can be quite large and intrusive, taking up a lot of square footage that could be put to better use. Was it an expensive job and, if it was a shared chimney breast, did the work require party wall consent or would that just be for removal of chimney breast? Fitting a wood burning stove was one of the first jobs we did in our house after removing the chunky 30s fireplace in the living room. hebe - was it a shared chimney breast and how much wider did you make the opening? Cutting a channel, fitting trunking and replastering is eminently sensible if that's the only way to go. That's why built in alcove storage like these double wardrobes either side of the chimney breast are high on our priority list when we come to renovate the final room in our house. They were untouched and primed for us to experiment on with different chimney breast and alcove ideas. It's also a job you can do your self with a masonry drill and cold chisel. Yes, we opened up a previously tiled fireplace and found the original huge opening underneath.We took a sledgehammer to the tiled part then removed the tiles which went round the lintels.You could roast an entire ox in the space. If you're leaving the cheeks of the fireplace in then it's not too much of a problem - but they'll still probably need to certify the work. Another way to add value (and a whole load of character!) If you’re wanting to make your room roomier by removing this structure, here are some things you should know. I think there will only be about 10-15cm in front of the chimney breast and I would think minimum depth of a kitchen cabinet is 30cm? The first I’d be thinking about is positioning seasoned logs within the opening of the chimney breast for rustic charm. A comfy sofa and a place to relax and watch TV. By building the frame, you can be creative in constructing the recess for the TV. Joists are rarely built into chimney breasts and are generally trimmed round with mortice and tenons etc but there can be exceptions. Victorian houses sometimes had flashings made from cheaper zinc or just thick strips of mortar, which are prone to cracking. noddy's got her goggles and ear protectors on. If I was handier with the ol' cutting and pasting I'd have done this in our living room, but alas my skills aren't there yet! I must add that I was not part of the project but asked to assist after the event. Thread starter Yellowjelly; Start date Today at 8:30 AM; Tags chimney breast; Y. Yellowjelly Novice Member. The first is painting the alcoves a different colour to the rest of the room. We didn't need to do anything else though - managed to get an extractor to fit into space and had to put a liner in chimney for the extraction. You can really work wonders with a few carefully selected home accessories, especially if you have a nice mantle to perch things on. Decorating a master bedroom? If you were feeling really creative you could do it in herring bone. The very first job I worked on many years ago was the case of a converted old house with about 3 or 4 floors, all owned / occupied by different people. However the builders opened it up to its original width which, happily for us, was plenty big enough for my cooker which is 90cm wide and there is now about 10cm either side of it. The joists are working with me but the chimney breast is on the party wall and there are constraints such as lecky, CH pipes and the two kitchen windows, doorway etc. I need to get something organised! Tried Bosch masonary bit, but seemed to dull after only a couple of holes. I was wondering if I could get a normal cabinet and get my joiner to cut it down to fit so there was effectively a shallow shelf that I could keep spices etc but I have no idea if this would work! Share your tips for saving on your energy bill with ESB Energy, Toilet training expert answers questions on bathroom habits and routines, Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox. I hope this has given you lots of ideas for decorating your chimney breast! Versatility is always a good thing! I need to ask DP - we've done it in our 1930s house. Uncover the hearth This is the solid section of floor in front of the chimney breast. Ok here’s the situation. If you're laying a hearth for example, make sure it doesn't extend too far into the centre of the room, keep it narrow, so you have … Structural engineer? Aim for half the cross section of the flue as a minimum. She has to wear them while she's driving the wrecking ball. At 2am she heard creaking and fled to her sister's house. Terms and Conditions / Privacy Policy / Contact / Work with us, 10 clever chimney breast and alcove ideas. In this case, it was that the masonry around the door frames had shifted, causing the doorways to be out of square. Layout can be a headache. An obvious one but not to be discounted too quickly as it will add value to your property. Your chimney breast takes a lot of space in the bedroom it can be tricky to know where to place wardrobes, the bed, chest of drawers and more. to your chimney breast is by getting bespoke shelves built in to your alcoves. Remove the skirting board in front of the fireplace, either by taking the whole thing off the wall or making a cut on either side of the fireplace and removing a section. If you’re stuck for colour schemes, we have a resource available “The Colour Swatch" that provides loads of paint colour schemes ideas for your home. Not sure if you need a struc engineer...they'd be able to tell you. Core Drilling into chimney breast that used to have a back boiler. In my experience if you see a picture like anything below then in 98% plus of cases there is a larger firepla… If the room has a suspended wood floor with air bricks round the outside of the house, then a simple floor grille cut into the floorboards to one side of the hearth or chimney breast is a good solution. Here's how to repair a leaking roof and chimney stack: Durable, long-lasting lead … Using an SDS … If you're doing a renovation you should download my free guide: The secret to a cohesive home (it's so easy your jaw will drop), How to visualise your decisions + prevent costly mistakes [video class], How to find your home style + not get divorced in the process , There are so many posts on my blog, as well as resources in my shop to help you during this exciting time decorating a house, so please do have a look around :), Who says neutrals are boring? 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